Submission: The Persian Jokes Were Never Funny

Comments (11)
  1. Nate says:

    I am a persian jewish bruin and I attended Mr. Hillel with all my friends and fellow persians. I and almost every persian I witnessed (granted this is based on what I saw) found the jokes and playful stereotypes to be absolutely hilarious and all in good fun. In fact, in my experience and the experiences shared to me by almost every persian I know, the persian community deeply enjoys it when a lot of these stereotypes are portrayed in playful ways because we can all relate to it. I found nothing to be offensive and neither did anyone else I know. So I think it is a misrepresentation to propose that the jokes were offensive or “not funny” and present those claims as facts and inherent truths. Maybe you just didnt find them funny and the portrayals did not sit right with you personally. In that case you should make that abundantly clear in your article and also note that just everyone has different experiences. So for you to have the reaction that you did is completely justified and warranted. For you to write about it is also justified and warranted. But for you to paint the event as anti-persian, to present the humor at the show as targeted and inherently offensive, and to try to make the case that this event represents a larger systematic agenda that is against the persian jewish community….well thats ignorant and offensive to me ?

  2. Ashley says:

    thank you so much for shedding light on this, as a persian jewish bruin alumn I am glad someone stepped up to say something about this on a public forum.

  3. Jacob Belson says:

    95% of everything Ashkenazis and Persians do are exactly the same. You’re creating this divide that doesn’t exist. My whole life, I grew up with Persians never once thinking there was an actual divide. When I think of Persians, I think of them as successful, educated, doctors, dentists, etc. who eat great food and live valuable, family-oriented life styles. This article tries to focus on the differences, creating a war between Ashkenazis and Persians (like no other factions of Jews exist)…when there is really no conflict. All of Mr. Hillel’s jokes were in good taste, and I’d be shocked if the vast majority of the Persian community didn’t agree with me on that.

  4. Sam Schmuel says:

    Your article also convientiently ignores all other categories of Jewry who exist and interact with the UCLA Jewish Community.

  5. Tal says:

    This is a ridiculous comment. If you are not Persian, you are not allowed to deny the existence of this conflict. Your personal thoughts are not representative of the Ashkenazi community’s general attitudes, and the fact that you personally have not witnessed it does not give you the right to deny it exists for others. Racist jokes are never in good taste. Your mindset is the reason why racism still exists.

  6. Gabriella says:

    Why would I focus on the struggles of community that is not mine? If a member of another category of Jewry speaks up about their experience, they will have my full support. I don’t have to speak about all divides; it’s a perfectly reasonable choice to focus on one.

  7. D says:

    Nate, although I appreciate your opinion, i do not necessarily agree with it. I did in fact attend Mr. Hillel and although some jokes were humorous, some were extremely distasteful. Ms. Kamran is speaking in regards to the fact that these slurs and comments have been prolonged for way to long in the jewish community as a whole. I appreciate Ms. Kamran’s comments because she sheds light to a topic that is never spoken about and is simply brushed under the rug. Jokes that target any race or any ethnicity is racist, ethically unjust and should stop!

  8. Nina says:

    It took me 30 years to realize that I had been complicit in the marginalization of my own community. I am impressed both with your writing and your ability to be so aware. The racism is so pervasive that many of us don’t even know it’s happening and are allowing it to perpetuate. Bravo to you.

  9. Mirror says:

    Treatment of Persian Jews in Los Angeles is just a reflection of their own behavior. When the community accepts others into itself, maybe then they can be accepted. I am in the community, and it is full of bigotry, backwardness, and intolerance. The racism is not subtle, it is out on full display.

    Do I need to remind you all the nicknames Persian students in UCLA have for Asians? Blacks? I can go on.

    Practice what you preach

  10. Jacob Belson says:

    They jokes were not racist. Persian Jews and Ashkenazi Jews are the exact same race. As someone who is half-Sephardi and half-Ashkenazi, I have never once seen an actual difference between the two besides minute interpretations and minute behaviors.

    But, if you want to talk about a divide and about real oppression, I’d be the first to note that it was my Askenazi side that lived in ghettos and gassed to death. But because I don’t care about the divide (because it’s not there), it’s irrelevant. But again, if the division is relevant to you, you should acknowledge that.

  11. Jacob Belson says:

    You are bandwagoning on “intersectionality”. Because Persian Jews are darker, you believe they are oppressed. That is ridiculous. Persian Jews are the most successful and most loved “section” of Jews (That is, if you even want to note sections. Again, we are literally the exact same race). To anyone not Jewish, we are exactly the same. I don’t know why us Jews are creating this divide (That again, DOES NOT EXIST!)